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Post by *UltimateGaoJP* on Jul 9, 2007 12:56:20 GMT 8
PSP owners need your opinions. Is it advisable to have your PSP downgraded? i mean I know its needed in order to download games from your resident cel phone stalls but are there any downsides to it?
Also has anyone encountered any problems with the games you downloaded and how much minimum memory do you need to store games?
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Post by Hayabusa on Jul 9, 2007 16:27:09 GMT 8
The only major downside that I see is that you won't be able to pair it with the PS3 to use some of it's features like remote access. Then there's the possibility of bricking the psp during the modding/downgrading process, just make sure the shop could vouch for your psp if something goes wrong.
As for the games, they sometimes compress the games to save space at the expense of removing the music, images, & even the fmv. Ideally, you should get a 2gb memstick so you could load more than 1 game & some games could go more than 1gb.
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Post by hikaru on Jul 9, 2007 17:35:02 GMT 8
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Post by Adelaine on Jul 9, 2007 19:31:04 GMT 8
That's first hand experience speaking. Hayabusa = absolute original only. Hayabusa's girl = hax0rz-by-blood. Something to clarify: When someone says "downgrade [my] psp", this means that your firmware is going to be downgraded to version 1.5, but you can still emulate firmware versions up to 3.10, which means that a downgraded psp can run 1.5 AND 3.XX firmware at the same time. The custom software is smart enough to tell which version of the firmware should be run whenever you try to play a game. Downsides to a modded psp: 1. You will not be able to remote play with a PS3. 2. You cannot play the original PSOne games Sony releases for the PSP 3. You can rip PSOne games with a modded psp, but the PSOne emulation is incomplete at present, so some games will not run completely. But hey, if you didn't downgrade, you can't play them in the first place anyway . The possibility of psp-bricking is very true. Before you attempt to downgrade, find out your psp motherboard and firmware. AFAIK, the latest downgraders work for even the TA-082 (asia psp) motherboards, so mobo isn't that big an issue anymore.
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Post by LadyLuck® on Jul 9, 2007 20:47:34 GMT 8
There are many flaws of downgrading a system/program and also the bios of the PSP.
I'm not saying you should do it but look on the bright side your a hardcore gamer and you would risk it. Anyways moded PSP sure promise a lot of games, but on the other hand mod chips usually expires...Why? Besically is not part of the original hardware.
as Adelaine said, thats true moded version its like the saying "Kumuha ka ng batong pinukpok mo sa sariling ulo mo" So why risk it to your original ones.
BUT eventually mod chips upgrade easilly even faster than the original hardware. Simply because its illegal(but hey its Philippines we all know about this stuff). Have you ever went to Raon Manila? Those amazing modifiers they almost can do magic. About the flaws stated by Adelaine they eventually come up with a solution to it... On my experince when I went there to change my PS2 modchip I saw this guy modifiying his psp he have a computer on his side and he BURN the PS1 and PS2 game iso via minidisk and amazingly it plays on his newly modified PSP. But the other guy next to me challenge it and says it will never play original ones/ Sony release games. SO this great modifiers said that if you have an original and lets test it. The guy has brought with him just to challenge the modifier... THE outcome, HELL IT WORKS!!!...I'm not saying you go there and modify your PSP but I only intend to share what I saw. ITS FREAKING AMAZING what can they do these days.
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Post by archaznable on Jul 9, 2007 21:53:28 GMT 8
I'm just wondering why is it that there are so many people wanted to downgrade there PSP just for the sake of playing old titles that were not playable in the new version. I think the best advice there is not to downgrade your PSP it will shorten its life span for sure and it will cause some minor flaws or breakdown in the near future.
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Post by LadyLuck® on Jul 9, 2007 22:05:18 GMT 8
OR if your still into playing without harming your original...
buy a modified one there are cheaper version specially made in china or taiwan. MOD chips comes from Malaysia, Taiwan and Korea
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Post by hikaru on Jul 9, 2007 23:00:06 GMT 8
You must be referring to the devhook homebrew that booster created wherein you're just emulating newer PSP firmware but no one uses it anymore because of the OE (Open Edition) firmware which was created by DarkAlex. You also dont need to intall a modchip to play UMD ISO. You just need to downgrade the firmware of the PSP to 1.5 because in this version you can bypass the security that sony included on the newest firmware. Once the PSP is downgraded you can now install the 3.40OE firmware. The tricky part is the downgrading process sony has made newer motherboards that if downgraded may cause you some problems you can get more info here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable_homebrew#MotherboardsBut I read somewhere that the newer downgrader has already fixed some of those issues so you can just ask the shop if they are using the latest version. Also with the 3.40OE installed, I was able to use the remote play on my PS3 using my PSP. The problem is that there is a new update on the PSP and PS3 firmware wherein you can view stored videos on the PS3 using a PSP via internet which I was not able to use because PSP 3.5 firmware is required to use that firmware. The 3.51OE was already in the development stage when DarkAlex quited the PSP homebrew scene on the fear that sony might sue him because of his OE firmware. So if newer games that requires 3.51 arrives then you're out of luck because it wont run on your PSP. But who knows there are a lot of talented programmers out there who might create a new way to run UMD Iso on a PSP. ;D
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Post by watari on Jul 10, 2007 13:05:11 GMT 8
PSP owners need your opinions. Is it advisable to have your PSP downgraded? i mean I know its needed in order to download games from your resident cel phone stalls but are there any downsides to it? Also has anyone encountered any problems with the games you downloaded and how much minimum memory do you need to store games? The only downside to it is your PSP might get bricked ;D Visit PinoyPSP forums, there might be someone there who can help you out. As for the games, it depends on where you're getting them, but Bittorrent is the way to go. I suggest you go for the 4gig memstick, they're cheaper now and you'll be able to put at least 3 large ISOs in it.
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Post by mojacko on Jul 12, 2007 9:34:29 GMT 8
are ISO games recent games being played on Psp...or the old games rip from PS1 or PS2???
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Post by Hayabusa on Jul 12, 2007 15:20:52 GMT 8
ISOs are generally optical media data that were ripped directly from the cd/dvd/umd. It's not limited to PSP or PS1 or PS2, there are ISOs of Xbox games, PC games, or any optical media for that matter. So far, PSP & PS1 ISOs can run on the PSP with the help of homebrew. Legitimate PS1 games for the PSP can run without the help of homebrew. There's no way to run PS2 ISOs for the moment as far as I know.
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Post by Adelaine on Jul 12, 2007 16:24:28 GMT 8
I think the best advice there is not to downgrade your PSP it will shorten its life span for sure and it will cause some minor flaws or breakdown in the near future. I have heard of no instance wherein modifying your PSP will shorten its lifetime. I cannot think of any theoretical reason for it either. You must be referring to the devhook homebrew that booster created wherein you're just emulating newer PSP firmware but no one uses it anymore because of the OE (Open Edition) firmware which was created by DarkAlex. I am referring to the custom software of DarkAlex. Maybe we just got confused by the term 'emulate'. YES, there is ALWAYS that danger. But NO, if you get someone to mod it (in greenhills or wherever), chances of them bricking your psp is practically nil. The only *recent* instances I've heard of psps getting bricked during modding is when they do something really silly, like a) trying to mod when your psp isn't plugged into an outlet and the battery dies in the middle of the process (even a LEGITIMATE upgrade will brick your psp if this happens!!), b) downloading a 'downgrader' that turns out to be a virus designed to brick your psp, or c) NOT FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS. A modder who will charge you money of course wouldn't do any of the above three. Oh, and if you're unhappy with the downgrade, you can always switch back to original firmware by simply upgrading to the latest official Sony release.
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Post by Adelaine on Jul 12, 2007 16:38:02 GMT 8
ISOs are generally optical media data that were ripped directly from the cd/dvd/umd. It's not limited to PSP or PS1 or PS2, there are ISOs of Xbox games, PC games, or any optical media for that matter. So far, PSP & PS1 ISOs can run on the PSP with the help of homebrew. Legitimate PS1 games for the PSP can run without the help of homebrew. There's no way to run PS2 ISOs for the moment as far as I know. The long and short of it is: ISO = CD/DVD/UMD Image format. Literally, an ISO is an exact copy of the data on your CD/DVD/UMD/Minidisc/BluerayDVD/HDDVD/whateveropticalmedia. You can open ISOs using WinRAR to view the files inside I don't think the PSP hardware is technologically capable of running PS2 games, but that's just me
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Post by ach13 on Jul 12, 2007 18:44:46 GMT 8
But to run PS1 games, you need to convert its ISO file to an eboot file.
There are lots of forums and sites out there to help you hack your own PSP. Try psphacking101. They have step-by-step videos of how to downgrade your PSP using the Lumines exploit in 3.50, Installing 3.40 OE, creating PS1 eboots, flashing new icons into your xmb, and a lot more. They also have a forum with lots of how to guides. I'm speaking from experience since I used their guides to install 3.03 OE and 3.40 OE on my PSP.
Bricking happens mostly due to the hacker not following the instructions. If you are brave and confident that you could follow the instructions enough, its better to hack your PSP yourself. If you are lazy or don't know a thing about computers, find a reputable store that downgrades and installs OE fw and make sure they would pay damages if ever they brick ur PSP.
On having custom fw: its great since you can install a lot of software for your PSP such as comic book, text and pdf readers, homebrew games, universal remotes, battery-thrifty MP3 players and others. Playing your PS1 games again is also great especially now that you can have them on the go. As for PSP UMD ISOs- now that's your call.
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