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Post by sepoy on Oct 15, 2008 14:55:56 GMT 8
Btw, CA is also known to sell fake merchandise so it's not accurate to compare the quality of products to what they sell. I managed to compare and see what the fakes look personally and with Google's help, so I suggest doing the same research before delving into the world of fakes. My L Nendoroid is fake because I don't want to ruin an original for my project, and at the time PU was the only seller that's lower than the competition. CA and BT are selling fake Nends at P700+ while PU is only P500. CU and BT are selling the fakes along with originals but checking them properly will prove beneficial. Last time I saw was BT selling an EVA Fraulein at less than 1K... (? figure was wearing white jumpsuit) whoa... To think I almost bought the L dendroid in BT since it was pretty cheap... just a question though, specifically for Dendroid/Play arts toy line... is there any way to check if the item is bootleg or not just by looking at the box (like when it says made in china)? or you really have to check the details of the toy itself?
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Post by hikari03 on Oct 15, 2008 17:27:58 GMT 8
17 poh when i buy in pahku he said he dont sale fake figure... i trusted him, then this happens(nakakasama ng loob) i remember he said to me what you see in the site that is the actual product,,
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Post by hikari03 on Oct 15, 2008 17:29:55 GMT 8
now its to hard to buy from the net, i got here because of one suggest i join the forum and in gt i will get 100percent original!
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Post by Gane on Oct 16, 2008 11:45:21 GMT 8
whoa... To think I almost bought the L dendroid in BT since it was pretty cheap... just a question though, specifically for Dendroid/Play arts toy line... is there any way to check if the item is bootleg or not just by looking at the box (like when it says made in china)? or you really have to check the details of the toy itself? One thing I know about these fakes is that they are getting pretty clever in the packaging, selling tactics and their products. You will never actually know a bootleg from pictures alone, you really have to be hands on. Other than that, these saying will always ring true "When it's too good to be true, it probably is..." I don't know if some distributors are mixing these bootlegs with originals but you would encounter them in good places as well. In the case of the Nendoroid L the box alone will give you a clue, most fakes don't have the hologram sticker on the front, L's face is the "gulat" instead of the normal sleepy one. Look closer inside the box and you'll find that painting in some areas are not aligned properly. L is almost packaged like the original with those small plastics to protect the figure. In the case of the Haruhi Nendoroid fakes (which I think PU has but tries to ignore me LOL) the vacu-formed clear plastic is so loose the figures tend to break apart inside the box. In BT VM they have the 4 Death Note fakes and some Haruhis so it's up to you to check them out. GT and W has the originals and the wight alone should give you an idea how the fakes compare, because they are a tinny bit heavier. The Play Arts is another story, the figure is already a dead give away. Most fakes will have a plasticky feel on the skin areas which are very evident with the nose part. The originals have that solid color mold so the nose area don't look let through light, you'll know what I mean. Try comparing an original barbie with an obvious imitation in TK or TRS, that's how you'll know the plastic they used are different. The Nendoroid fakes are very good imitation because they even managed to copy the plastic of the original. Here's my L (that doesn't sound right ;D ) And if you want the Beast Wars Megs here's a nice copy that's worth the look but a fraction of the price at least you know it's bootleg on the box alone Google the items first to know how the figure you want looks like and for Nendoroids check the pix here [a href=" www.nendoroid.jp/"] www.nendoroid.jp/[/a]
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Post by tealbrolly on Oct 16, 2008 11:55:14 GMT 8
17 poh when i buy in pahku he said he dont sale fake figure... i trusted him, then this happens(nakakasama ng loob) i remember he said to me what you see in the site that is the actual product,, I still remember the time I bought cloud play arts from him and asked the same question, he said he's not sure since he gets his stuffs from the chinese. We agreed that I'll check the item first before I buy it (knowing there's a chance it's bootleg). I've checked the quality and its ok and box is the same posted in his website so I have no problems with it. I asked about his Naruto gashapons and he admitted its fake and explained to me how messy some of the paint apps are. And just by looking at his ebay feedback he have 100% positive feedbacks. What you're sharing us is different from my experience. You also mentioned earlier that his price is the same as the original yet he's selling his play arts at 1.2K only. Claiming false information is foul move. By the way you dish PU and make him look bad too much while proudly expressing your support to GT, I guess you're showing us how good you are at kissing GT's ass. Grow up kid. Be responsible for your actions and stop blaming other people for it.
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Post by hikari03 on Oct 18, 2008 8:32:57 GMT 8
basta buy in trusted sites... GT,J.A.E(USA toys) it really scaring for me as a starter, i really hate bootleg!
NO Value
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Post by Gane on Oct 19, 2008 11:32:10 GMT 8
Before anybody else bash another member please be aware that this place is moderated and although I'm no moderator it would be wise to understand where the other person is standing in their situation.
About the shops, please don't mention the names for the sake of secrecy and some sort of respect.
I know PU sells some bootlegs but it is always wise to check around before jumping into a transaction. PU didn't tell me the item (Nendoroid L) was fake, but I did my research and the price alone is a dead give-away. A Nendoroid will already pitch P1200 SRP so finding a P500 one will surely be an imitation.
As I mentioned before, do your research because bootlegs can pop up in places you didn't expect even in some respectable places.
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Post by hikari03 on Oct 19, 2008 17:35:24 GMT 8
its to hard to find trusted stores even in malls,g.hill gosh!
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Post by White Glint on Oct 19, 2008 18:37:40 GMT 8
Ehh...
The more famous/popular a franchise is, the more bootleg merchandise there is for it.
Well, at least that's my observation.
I guess all I can say is if you're gonna buy an item from a current, well-known anime or something, be careful.
Thank goodness not all good titles go mainstream (WOO~!! GETTER ROBO™~!!)
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Post by Gane on Oct 21, 2008 11:09:16 GMT 8
The more famous/popular a franchise is, the more bootleg merchandise there is for it. Thank goodness not all good titles go mainstream (WOO~!! GETTER ROBO™~!!) Yup and since most of these companies have Chinese counterparts in making the figures/kits, it's not hard to deduce that some Japanese molds are copied and used for "another client". And sometimes sore factory overruns or those that didn't meet quality control are repackaged (see older post), since they make the originals they have access to everything (including packaging) other than the correct barcodes and ads. Getter Robo is already regulated by it's owner, and if the stories were true back then, most of Go Nagai's properties couldn't be shown publicly outside Japan without his consent. That was a rumor then... its to hard to find trusted stores even in malls,g.hill gosh! Yup but the difference is TK and TRU will gie you the correct price for a bootleg and will not pass it off as an original ;D, except for some sales personnel who most often enough don't give a hoot about the products they are assigned in... Case in point are the Naruto 5-6" figs which TK sold for P400, (original will cost around 1K+) but CA sold and passed it on as originals (packaging alone was a dead give away) and sold it for P700... If you are into gashapons it wouldn't hurt to check out Daiso from time to time, they sell originals (like the Fist of the North Star and so on) which they got from their distributor and not the local distributors. Thus they can sell them for P88 instead of the hefty P250. ;D
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Post by fenrir72 on Oct 22, 2008 0:49:57 GMT 8
Buyer beware. The price is a giveaway already but if you're satisfied with cheapo fakes then it's your call. If you do want advice, maybe PM us to avoid openly bashing the store in particular. For one store.......................CA, had great relations with them in the late 90's, all were origs, figs and a lot of OST(Taiwan copy anyway) then I stopped buying anime figs for sometime. Resumed around 2000 and heard about their you know what. Still....a lot of great memories from that particular store.
BTW is BT also selling fakes now too? who would have guess but IIRC, there are a lot of fakes in Taiwan too hopefully those stores won't pass them of as origs, that would be quite unfair, especially for inexperienced collectors.
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Post by darkangel016 on Oct 22, 2008 18:49:51 GMT 8
I've bought my first nendo from pahku, i'm so disappointed when i received the package..its fake!!!(my bad here,didn't research much)...
so now i wanna insure that what i'm buying is original....do you know other stores aside from GT and Wasabi that sells original figures?PM me.
Thanks!
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Post by fenrir72 on Oct 22, 2008 19:14:37 GMT 8
Well you've mentioned those two local stores why look for more?
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Post by hikari03 on Oct 23, 2008 15:50:16 GMT 8
gosh boothlegs makes a scare in this thread, guys where is wasabi store in g.hill,and the sell 100percent original?
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Post by hikari03 on Oct 23, 2008 15:54:06 GMT 8
some of the collector suggested me in to get figures in wasabi, now the price will tell the originality of an item? cheaper price the figure is the more chance ill get a fake item? for me its really hard to find shops specially im buying on the net. im from tarlac......
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