top coat, top question

[ikabod]

question: can i mix tamiya acrylic gloss clear paint with tamiya acrylic flat base paint to make it a flat clear coat?

[no3Ljm]

ikabod said:

question: can i mix tamiya acrylic gloss clear paint with tamiya acrylic flat base paint to make it a flat clear coat?

from what i've read on other forums, bro, you can mix it with different ratio to achieve the desired gloss, semi-gloss or flatness. they use acrylic flat base din on Future to do the same thing. but Future is not available locally.

[ikabod]

noel
future is available locally bro

hhmm ok will try to get that gloss clear and flat base acrylics next time. . .

[no3Ljm]

ikabod said:

noel
future is available locally bro

hhmm ok will try to get that gloss clear and flat base acrylics next time. . .

bro, if you want a flat finish coat, why not buy a Flat Topcoat sprays like Mr.Topcoat, Ms.SuperClear instead of mixing gloss clear and flat base?

[ikabod]

noel
want to use it with my a/b eh, honing my skills bro. . . right now am using "delata" rin but it's bosny can spray. ;D

[GN]

Question, why is it best to spray top coat in the afternoon again?

[Lotur]

price to performance wise, whats the best flat top coat bargain you can recommend? without frost and other nasty side effects even on cold weather?

am planning to coat all my kits gradually...
tamiya flatcoat works great (even on cold nights and rainy days no frosting whatsoever), but its really too expensive for the bulk coating project i want to do.
TIA

[no3Ljm]

@gn-004 & Lotur
it is advised to use spray paints / topcoats during the middle of the day. esp when the sun is up and hot. just be sure to warm the cans first with warm water and shake it vigorously. so that the paints inside are well shaken with the help of marble / bearing.

and it's not advisable to use those during cold weather nor rainy days. because it tends to frost once it sprayed. that's based on my experience. unless you have a controlled temperature room.

as for brands, if you want good topcoats, you can choose between Tamiya Topcoats, Gunze's Mr. Super Clear and Gunze's Mr. Topcoat. it's available at Lil's Futaba and STC Hobby Center. you can also use bottled paint type of Clear Coats, though you need to use it with airbrush. Tamiya and Gunze carries this too also.

if you guys are on a budget, you can use Clear Spray Paint which is available at your suking hardware stores such as ACE, DIY, etc. sample brands are Nikko, Pylox, etc.

hope that helps, guys. happy building!

[PilapZ]

gn004 said:

Question, why is it best to spray top coat in the afternoon again?

based on experience amigo, if you spray paint early in the morning 'ala 6am to 7am' you'll get a bad result with your top coat. sames goes if its night or rainy day.

what will happen is 'frosting'. top coat will look like 'alikabok' spots which will make the kit look so bad.

it's best to use topcoat around 10am to 3pm in the afternoon, best result i got thus far.

hope that helps amigo.

[raven55]

I agree with pilapZ. It's like spraying/ applying polyurethane. The hotter the weather, the better the shine.. No frosting or anything.

During cold weather, this could still be done under extreme/ intense artificial llighting. Just thought i'd share. hehehe.

[Lotur]

@noeljm
thanks!

is there a big difference in the matte/flat finish between the tamiya brands from the cheap ones? (pylox, rj etc)
is the quality gap really that noticeable?
mamulubi kasi ako kung puro tamiya bilin ko for all the MGs sir ;D
TIA

[no3Ljm]

to be honest, Tamiya / Gunze brands or any brands na hobby-related are specialized on model kits. so for 'quality', issue, maybe there is. but it's not that noticeable. maybe there's result in due time. and we really can't answer that unless we tried it like Brand X and Brand Y TV commercials. hehehe. ;D

as for local brands naman, they were ok for me. kasi i'm using those before. esp TOA and Pylox. sometimes Nikko. and ok naman sya. but i still use Mr. Super Clear for my final coat. and to have those massive collections, i will think twice what brands to use.

[Lotur]

n0eljm said:

to be honest, Tamiya / Gunze brands or any brands na hobby-related are specialized on model kits. so for 'quality', issue, maybe there is. but it's not that noticeable. maybe there's result in due time. and we really can't answer that unless we tried it like Brand X and Brand Y TV commercials. hehehe. ;D

as for local brands naman, they were ok for me. kasi i'm using those before. esp TOA and Pylox. sometimes Nikko. and ok naman sya. but i still use Mr. Super Clear for my final coat. and to have those massive collections, i will think twice what brands to use.

thanks sir noel!
as recommended i might try pylox of mr super clear from the local hw sa old MGs, more content and much cheaper

[ach13]

Which is better- applying top coat then panel lines or vice versa? In Danny Choo's guide, he applies panel lines before the top coat but in FichtenFoo's guide, he applies the top coat first before the panel lines.

Also, can I still apply top coat to my models even if I've finished building them a year ago? Should I take them apart (legs, arms, body, head) before applying top coat or can I spray directly?

I have a 1/100 Gundam Wing, EVA-01 and EVA-02, all finished building and painting last year. In the pipelines are 1/144 Gundam Devil and 1/100 Gundam Kyrios (just bought awhile ago in Great Toys Makati ;D). Soon to be bought are Exia, Dynames then Virue/Nadleeh (in that order; the same order of coolness for me!).

Thanks!

[蠍座 shinn]

hmm... ok... the topcoat-panel procedure is usually being used when you paint your kits... this is to prevent the paint from being damaged.... if you don't paint your kits, it doesn't matter if you panel first then topcoat and vice versa... hope that answers your question...

about the built kits, no you don't have to disassemble the kit... you just need to make sure that no dusts are hanging around the kit for a clean finish... ;D