ach13
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Post by ach13 on Feb 27, 2008 8:31:03 GMT 8
Ok thanks! Forgot to metion that the afformentioned finished models were painted already.
Maybe I'll try to ink then topcoat the finished ones then topcoat and ink the next one I will build to see which I prefer.
Another question: won't the topcoat make the model's surface smooth? then inking would be harder then.
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Post by PilapZ on Feb 27, 2008 12:02:57 GMT 8
inking on a smoother/glossy surface is a lot easier. it's easier to wipe of the excess ink. i've tried it numerous times already on my kit and results are better. when i ink on flat paints, inking is a lot more difficult. whole new ballgame. i guess it's better to use glossy topcoat or use clear coat to smoothen out the flat finish to make paneling easier. once the paneling is done, you may proceed to the next step: decal or apply glossy/flat topcoat.  hope that made sense amigo! ;D |
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Post by 蠍座 shinn on Feb 27, 2008 15:18:51 GMT 8
since you said the built kits were all painted, then i suggest that you do the topcoat(gloss) then ink the panel... as what pilapz said, if you spray topcoat(flat) on a kit, it will be harder to ink the panels since it will have a rough texture and would result to smudges if you try to erase the excess ink.... hope that clear things up! ;D
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Post by ach13 on Feb 27, 2008 21:31:09 GMT 8
So glossy topcoat then panel. Ok got it! Thanks!
But what if I would want a flat top coat? Should I panel then topcoat?
Sorry bout having lots of questions, I'm just nervous that I might ruin my finished ones. I've read the different threads about tips in this forum, its just that there's so many opinions/views that it's hard to comprehend all of them. ;D
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Post by no3Ljm on Feb 28, 2008 11:25:40 GMT 8
i think i posted something like this before. forgot what thread it is:
PAINTED KIT (airbrushed or spraypainted)
1. GLOSS TOPCOAT. after you painted your kit.
2. PANEL LINING. enamel ink wash is preferably if you used lacquer based for base paint.
3. APPLYING DECALS. water slide or dry transfer or gundam decals (your preference).
4. GLOSS TOPCOAT. to 'lock' everything up. to 'level' the sticker type decals. actually, this one is an option if you want it. or you can go to...
5. FINAL TOPCOAT.
NON-PAINTED KIT "A" (out of the box building)
1. GLOSS TOPCOAT. if you're gonna use 'ink wash' to flow the paint you need a glossy surface.
2. PANEL LINING.
3. APPLYING DECALS.
4. GLOSS TOPCOAT. to 'lock' everything up. to 'level' the sticker type decals. actually, this one is an option if you want it. or you can go straight to...
5. FINAL TOPCOAT.
NON-PAINTED KIT "B" (out of the box building)
1. PANEL LINING. using Gundam Markers
2. APPLYING DECALS.
3. FINAL TOPCOAT.
still, the last application of 'TOPCOAT' will depends on everyone's preference if he wants his kit to be GLOSSY or FLAT.
hope that helps.
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Post by ach13 on Feb 28, 2008 19:45:07 GMT 8
Ah ok.
So I could go:
PAINTED KIT (airbrushed or spraypainted)
1. GLOSS TOPCOAT.
2. PANEL LINING. enamel ink wash is preferably if you used lacquer based for base paint.
I used Tamiya Spray in all my models.
3. APPLYING DECALS. water slide or dry transfer or gundam decals (your preference).
4. GLOSS TOPCOAT. to 'lock' everything up. to 'level' the sticker type decals. actually, this one is an option if you want it. or you can go to...
5. FINAL TOPCOAT.
So the final could be flat right? So the initial gloss top coat is to make panelling easier.
Thanks!!
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Post by 蠍座 shinn on May 15, 2008 11:58:02 GMT 8
just a question guys... can i use topcoat on die-cast metals? if yes, what kind of topcoat would you recommend? thanks!
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Post by no3Ljm on May 16, 2008 2:05:17 GMT 8
ach13
yup. FINAL TOPCOAT could be Flat if that's what you prefer. some preferred Gloss though. esp when they use Gold or some Metallic paints. i.e. Hyaku-Shiki.
@shinn
IMHO, Gloss Topcoats can ruin the natural Metal finish of die-cast models. same thing with Gloss Topcoats on Metallic paints. it will ruin the natural finish. it will still look glossy but it's not the same when you applied the Metallic paints. i do suggest though that you use special gloves for handling your die-cast toys. i think it will be better. 
one thing i'm not so sure if we could use some 'polish' to buff up our die-cast toys. not so sure about the contents... 
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Post by 蠍座 shinn on May 16, 2008 8:57:35 GMT 8
ok thanks master noel! ;D what i tried is using baby oil on the metal... it works fine, i guess... ;D thanks for the tip!
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Post by no3Ljm on May 16, 2008 12:52:55 GMT 8
really? you used baby oil on your die-cast models? how do you handle it?
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Post by 蠍座 shinn on May 16, 2008 15:41:46 GMT 8
i just apply a few drops on a cotton bud... but i only use this on SICs since SICs have parts that are die-cast... ;D haven't tried it on die-cast models...
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Post by christine_03 on May 21, 2008 6:17:14 GMT 8
you mentioned something about metalic paint.. so i cant put gloss coating on the kit? how about flat? if i put decals then whats the best topcoat before and after on a metalic paint? thanks
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Post by no3Ljm on May 22, 2008 13:09:25 GMT 8
you mentioned something about metalic paint.. so i cant put gloss coating on the kit? how about flat? if i put decals then whats the best topcoat before and after on a metalic paint? thanks
if you're going to put decals on the said metallic-painted-parts, i suggest you use the Future Floor-something (forgot the correct name). or if you're going to use Tamiya/Mr.Color gloss topcoats, ask around if it's ok to put afterwards some rubbing compound on that painted parts so you can make it shine once again.
my answer is based on what i have observed on some of the clips i've watched with 'Maestro' -- a japanese professional modeller. hope that helps. 
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Post by christine_03 on May 22, 2008 13:23:01 GMT 8
i bought future floor thing. but i think thats glossy. i want em flat. maybe ill try on some spare part or sprue tree. thanks for the heads up
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Post by 蠍座 shinn on May 24, 2008 15:40:12 GMT 8
you mentioned something about metalic paint.. so i cant put gloss coating on the kit? how about flat? if i put decals then whats the best topcoat before and after on a metalic paint? thanks
if you're going to put decals on the said metallic-painted-parts, i suggest you use the Future Floor-something (forgot the correct name). or if you're going to use Tamiya/Mr.Color gloss topcoats, ask around if it's ok to put afterwards some rubbing compound on that painted parts so you can make it shine once again.
my answer is based on what i have observed on some of the clips i've watched with 'Maestro' -- a japanese professional modeller. hope that helps.
that's future floor acrylic to be exact... ;D |
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