top coat, top question

[Gane]

May 22, 2008 13:23:01 GMT 8 christine_03 said:

i bought future floor thing. but i think thats glossy. i want em flat. maybe ill try on some spare part or sprue tree. thanks for the heads up

I don't know if it's available as I remember it from a previous tut from FSM, you have to have a flat base (I believe Tamiya has one) and mix it with Future Floor Polish. This will give a flat to rough finish depending on how much flat base you added.

Good luck

May 22, 2008 13:09:25 GMT 8 no3Ljm said:

any topcoats on metallic paints can ruin the natural 'metallic effect' on the said kind of paint. same goes with flat topcoat. the metallic effect will be flat.

if you're going to put decals on the said metallic-painted-parts, i suggest you use the Future Floor-something (forgot the correct name). or if you're going to use Tamiya/Mr.Color gloss topcoats, ask around if it's ok to put afterwards some rubbing compound on that painted parts so you can make it shine once again.

Agreed any Top Coat will dull a metallic finish so you only have a few solutions to keep it at that.

1st if you're trying for a chrome finish (gold or silver) you might as well use bare metal foil (I don't know if it's available locally). I think it was sold in Lil's before but it was a bit expensive (?).

2nd you can do the rubbing technique, this is messy but done properly you can apply any top coat without messing the finish, because you are applying almost 3 clear coats while the silver/gold compound over it to make it stick. If you've tried applying gold or silver powder you'll notice that it stick to any material and washing it is the only safe option. If you want this trick you can search FSM.

3rd you can always cover the metallic area so the top coat won't touch it.

[shapompom]

Question guys. When applying flat topcoat on the kit w/c is not painted.. do i still need to sand the whole kit or is it ok to spray over the plastic? thanks!

[Gane]

Apr 3, 2010 3:14:57 GMT 8 shapompom said:

Question guys. When applying flat topcoat on the kit w/c is not painted.. do i still need to sand the whole kit or is it ok to spray over the plastic? thanks!

Sanding is good but is not really necessary unless you did some modding which will in turn need sanding and priming.

Use model kit flat top coats because they have finer grit, hardware flat coats have regular nozzles that creates bigger grits when the paint dries.

[iammario]

guys i have a question,

i just finished spray painting (Using Bosny delata) and panel lining (Using Copic and Gundam Markers).

I recently bought a Tamiya Color Clear TS-13. After reading some threads in many forums regarding TS-13 I'm doubtful if I bought the right topcoat. some say it cracks blah blah blah

So what I worry about is that will the Panel lines (copic and gundam marker mix) "BLEED" after I apply the top coat?

Also, would there be a possibility that the Decals may "MELT"?

Would you recommend that I still use the Tamiya clear TS-13 that I bought or could you recommend other topcoats for me?

Thanks in advance. Hope you could help me on this one.

[iammario]

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[redknight]

MR color topcoat will do.

[iammario]

^red
sir that wont bleed the panel lines? melt the decals? and stuff? im a bit scared to topcoat because in some forums they said some may produce the said effects.

how much would one mr color topcoat cost? would you happen to know?

Thanks thanks. i guess I'll just keep the tamiya clear coats for future use. *sigh*

[Gane]

May 5, 2010 23:20:00 GMT 8 iammario said:

guys i have a question,

i just finished spray painting (Using Bosny delata) and panel lining (Using Copic and Gundam Markers).

I recently bought a Tamiya Color Clear TS-13. After reading some threads in many forums regarding TS-13 I'm doubtful if I bought the right topcoat. some say it cracks blah blah blah

So what I worry about is that will the Panel lines (copic and gundam marker mix) "BLEED" after I apply the top coat?

Also, would there be a possibility that the Decals may "MELT"?

Would you recommend that I still use the Tamiya clear TS-13 that I bought or could you recommend other topcoats for me?

Thanks in advance. Hope you could help me on this one.

Cracking from TS-13 use depend on the circumstances of how and when it was applied. Since Tamiya has not made any notices or changes to its formulation, the results when you use TS-13 will depend on that.

Use the Top Coat properly according to instructions. You'll get better adhesion by dipping the can in warm water prior to application. This will also avoid the appearance of cracks on dried paint. Don't paint in one pass, make thin coats and build it up to the finish.

For a detailed instruction check this link and most specially the best way to use Tamiya TS-13 and avoid unnecessary cracks:

www.scaleautomag.com/How%20to%20and%20Models/How%20To/2008/12/Great%20paint%20from%20spray%20cans%20Part%20I.aspx

May 6, 2010 17:41:49 GMT 8 iammario said:

sir that wont bleed the panel lines? melt the decals? and stuff? im a bit scared to topcoat because in some forums they said some may produce the said effects.

how much would one mr color topcoat cost? would you happen to know?

Thanks thanks. i guess I'll just keep the tamiya clear coats for future use. *sigh*

Decals are not created equal, so some experimenting is needed specially when you're new to it or you're using a new material on it.

Some top coats will damage a decal like cracking, melting and cover it with a smokey appearance.

I believe decal sheets have extras which you will not be using unless you want the Bandai logo applied as well.

Using the detail (with Bandai logo and production date) part of the sprue tree, use this to test the decal and marker. If you are satisfied then go ahead use the TS-13, if not get a Mr. Color which cost a bit more than Tamiya. Same goes for a Bosny 1K clear coat.

Mr. Surfaces adds a sheen to the area applied so if you want a shiny Gundam then use this...

[kingjaze]

guys i have a question how much is Hobby Top Coats? and Local Top Coats?

[Gane]

Depending on the brand they can cost from 150 -250 petot on the small cans...

While hardware brands are from 120 for regular while 250 for good quality, both are available in big cans...

Just remember that Tamiya, Mr. Hobby and other hobby related brands have finer nozzles for the kit modelers while hardware nozzles are bigger because of their original purpose that is to cover large areas thus the result is thicker paint application...

[oldskul]

i used to airbrush paint my models (tanks and gundam) but that was way back then, now i don't have the time, so i am using topcoat spray on my current project (hguc sinanju)-



i'm using gunze sangyo semi gloss top coat here. looks better than bare plastic. it also hides sanding marks, after 2 coats.

if i can get my hands on a 1/144 sinanju water slide decals, i'll top it off with gunze gloss coat, apply the decals, then seal everything with another semi gloss coat.