MAX WATANABE STYLE OF PAINTING ???

[oldskul]

checkmate said:

mannyd said:

ser confirm kulang- pag dual action na un airbrush, meron na din sya pressure control?

yup it has already.pero kelangan mo pa rin ng air regulator for your air compressor. kasi kung dual action ka nga eh ang buga naman ng ac mo e more than 40 PSi eh wala din. kaya kuha ka ng regulator. kasi ako pag nag a.b. nag lalaro between 20 and 15 psi lang ako kasi.

ah yes un "air regulator", un pa ang hindi ko alam. tnx talaga checkmate, pati un mga links na binigay mo titignan ko (lalo na un sa finescale modeller).

best regards to you bro

[Checkmate!]

no prob pre.

[oldskul]

bro checkmate, bale heto needed sa effective airbrush set up:

1. airbrush dual action type
2. must be gravity feed paint container
3. air compressor with air regulator (for air pressure below 40 psi)

last question bro, max mentioned in the link the following air pressures: 0.7-1.0 kgf/cm3 and 0.5 kgf/cm3, do you know their psi equivalent sa air regulator? or un air regulator gauge meron din sya air pressure measurement in this terms?

[Daycot]

Hmm.. Parang engineering subject ito ah! Try this:

[0.7 or 1.0 kgf/cm3 x (2.54x2.54)] and multiply the product by 2.2 lbf.

I hope I have that right now! ;D

[oldskul]

daycotyledon said:

Hmm.. Parang engineering subject ito ah! ;D Try this:

[0.7 or 1.0 kgf/cm3 x (2.54x2.54x2.54)] and divide the product by 2.2 lbf.

I hope I have that right! ;D

ah ok, bale heto convertion nila (mga air pressures suggested by max ):

0.5 kgf/cm3 = 3.7 psi (air pressure for small areas)

and

0.7 kgf/cm3 = 5.2 psi
0.8 kgf/cm3 = 5.9 psi
0.9 kgf/cm3 = 6.7 psi
1.0 kgf/cm3 = 7.4 psi (air pressures for average size areas)

hope i got that right too (computations based from convertion formula suggested by daycot), tnx bro.

note: parang mababa sila no? alam ko kase, from what i've read before:
general spraying for large area, use air pressure generally around 25-30 psi.
and for fine detailed spraying, air pressure should range between 10-25 psi.

[SEELE01]

Uh, there's a mistake in the conversion, its should be multiply by 2.2 instead of divide.

Also, its should be 2.54 squared not cubed. (ref to Kgf/cm^2)

[Checkmate!]

mannyd said:

bro checkmate, bale heto needed sa effective airbrush set up:

1. airbrush dual action type
2. must be gravity feed paint container
3. air compressor with air regulator (for air pressure below 40 psi)

last question bro, max mentioned in the link the following air pressures: 0.7-1.0 kgf/cm3 and 0.5 kgf/cm3, do you know their psi equivalent sa air regulator? or un air regulator gauge meron din sya air pressure measurement in this terms?

yup. dual action, gravity fed ab.

a/c kasi 2 klase may diaphragm and piston type naman. alam ko mas ok yung piston type kasi walang masyadong pulsation. and sa ac pala you'll need a water trap din.

yung regulator and water trap pati oil filter combo sa may recto nun.

[Daycot]

Stupid me! I got it all mixed up! I got confused by the cm3! I am getting rusty! ;D Thanks for the correction Seele!

[alucard]

uy! tutorials....i hope you update it lagi...katropang gundams!

[oldskul]

seele01 said:

Uh, there's a mistake in the conversion, its should be multiply by 2.2 instead of divide.

Also, its should be 2.54 squared not cubed. (ref to Kgf/cm^2)

ah ok, bale heto na mga air pressures suggested by max:

0.5 kgf/cm3 = 7 psi (air pressure for small areas)

and

0.7 kgf/cm3 = 10 psi
0.8 kgf/cm3 = 11 psi
0.9 kgf/cm3 = 13 psi
1.0 kgf/cm3 = 14 psi (air pressures for average size areas)

hope i got that right too, again (computations based from convertion formula suggested by daycot and correction of seele01), tnx guys. hope this helps.

[oldskul]

checkmate said:

mannyd said:

bro checkmate, bale heto needed sa effective airbrush set up:

1. airbrush dual action type
2. must be gravity feed paint container
3. air compressor with air regulator (for air pressure below 40 psi)

last question bro, max mentioned in the link the following air pressures: 0.7-1.0 kgf/cm3 and 0.5 kgf/cm3, do you know their psi equivalent sa air regulator? or un air regulator gauge meron din sya air pressure measurement in this terms?

yup. dual action, gravity fed ab.

a/c kasi 2 klase may diaphragm and piston type naman. alam ko mas ok yung piston type kasi walang masyadong pulsation. and sa ac pala you'll need a water trap din.

yung regulator and water trap pati oil filter combo sa may recto nun.

ok, tnx bro for the additional info.
bro i have 2 more additional questions:

1. un water trap same ba sa moisture trap?
2. anu use nun "oil filter combo"?

tnx in advance bro, best regards.

[SEELE01]

mannyd said:

seele01 said:

Uh, there's a mistake in the conversion, its should be multiply by 2.2 instead of divide.

Also, its should be 2.54 squared not cubed. (ref to Kgf/cm^2)

ah ok, bale heto na mga air pressures suggested by max:

0.5 kgf/cm3 = 7 psi (air pressure for small areas)

and

0.7 kgf/cm3 = 10 psi
0.8 kgf/cm3 = 11 psi
0.9 kgf/cm3 = 13 psi
1.0 kgf/cm3 = 14 psi (air pressures for average size areas)

hope i got that right too, again (computations based from convertion formula suggested by daycot and correction of seele01), tnx guys. hope this helps.

Computation is now correct, but please note that the correct metric unit is Kgf/cm^2 (force/area)

Btw I found a nice pressure calculator site
www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-pressureunits.htm
You can save the html and it will still compute!

[SEELE01]

mannyd said:

checkmate said:

yup. dual action, gravity fed ab.

a/c kasi 2 klase may diaphragm and piston type naman. alam ko mas ok yung piston type kasi walang masyadong pulsation. and sa ac pala you'll need a water trap din.

yung regulator and water trap pati oil filter combo sa may recto nun.

ok, tnx bro for the additional info.
bro i have 2 more additional questions:

1. un water trap same ba sa moisture trap?
2. anu use nun "oil filter combo"?

tnx in advance bro, best regards.

Yes, water trap = moisture trap.

The oil part, its not actually a filter but an oil lubricator, used for pneumatic tools. It's not needed for airbrushing.
I got one myself and all I need is a long airhose and fittings to complete my air supply rig.

[Daycot]

Great site! Makes life more easier! ;D Thanks Seele!

[oldskul]

seele01 said:

mannyd said:

ah ok, bale heto na mga air pressures suggested by max:

0.5 kgf/cm3 = 7 psi (air pressure for small areas)

and

0.7 kgf/cm3 = 10 psi
0.8 kgf/cm3 = 11 psi
0.9 kgf/cm3 = 13 psi
1.0 kgf/cm3 = 14 psi (air pressures for average size areas)

hope i got that right too, again (computations based from convertion formula suggested by daycot and correction of seele01), tnx guys. hope this helps.

Computation is now correct, but please note that the correct metric unit is Kgf/cm^2 (force/area)

Btw I found a nice pressure calculator site
www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-pressureunits.htm
You can save the html and it will still compute!

tnx bro, very informative un site (about pressure convertion).
bale heto talaga convertion ng kgf/cm^2 into psi:

kgf/cm^2 x (2.54 x 2.54), then multiply product with 2.2

or you can directly convert them using the following convertion values:

kgf/cm^2 = 14.223343 psi
psi = 0.070306958 kgf/cm^2

(psi, PSI, or lbf/in2 = pound force per square inch)
(kgf/cm^2 = kilogram force per square centimeter)

Me error talaga un translation nun article (from its original japanese text in hobby japan) cubed sya pero dapat squared:



tnx guys, best regards.