MAX WATANABE STYLE OF PAINTING ???

[dj898]

for weathering? yes plus bit of washing and etc.

[oldskul]

it looks great dude.

[ikabod]

kangkong said:

you can actually remove the visor to expose those internal even on a zaku.

oic, i thought painting the visor with gloss clear paint would make it that clear to see through the internal details, yun pala it was removed na. . . ;D na loko ako dun ah . . .

[Lotur]

mannyd said:

hi guys, yeah pastel chalk can be more subtle and even looking than pre shading sometimes, kase you have control dun sa powder na lalagay mo. you apply it like paint, just dip the fine pointed brush sa powder, then hand brush gently on the edges and panel lines.

and yeah it sticks best to matte finish.

minsan you think madame na nalagay mo, then after putting top / clear coat mag iiba sya bigla, magiging more subtle. parang magic

if you like the really weathered look, like the gundams in MS08th team, you can use light green, reddish brown, and sandy yellow pastel chalks. parang me mud and dirt un look.

if you like naman to weather space type gundams, pag white basepaint, you can use light blue or light grey colors. sa darker basepaints, use black or dark grey.

and like no3ljm said, use un square pastel chalks, un parang chalk talaga. and not those round oil pastels

tnx

pre whats the difference between this pastel chalk and the typical weathering kit from tamiya?

does it work well for non painted kits followed up by clear coat?
and what clear coat is best recommended (gloss/flat)?

ive only tried this once with my non painted tallgeese, and imo napakapal ata lagay ko (it did not resemble the post or pre shading effects, instead waxed/powdery, uneven shades on edges ang result using the tamiya weather kit... maybe it had a lot to do with the non painted surface and lack of clear coat?)

TIA

[蠍座 shinn]

dude, i don't know about those pastels but i tried using pencils... regular pencils will do like mongol... i dunno... i find my work stupid... but other members here told me it was ok... what you can do is try to spray the kit a thin layer of flat topcoat to make the kit semi-rough so that the pencil will stick to the surface... another alternative is to sand the kit till the desired roughness then shade.... here's a sample... sorry kung hindi mo type... hahaha.. ;D

[Lotur]

kakitayoshi said:

dude, i don't know about those pastels but i tried using pencils... regular pencils will do like mongol... i dunno... i find my work stupid... but other members here told me it was ok... what you can do is try to spray the kit a thin layer of flat topcoat to make the kit semi-rough so that the pencil will stick to the surface... another alternative is to sand the kit till the desired roughness then shade.... here's a sample... sorry kung hindi mo type... hahaha.. ;D

nicee work, anlinis ng shading dude!
parang pre shade na rin siya
hope i can practice it like that with the 144s, masyadong maliit kasi for the weathering sponge...

i totally agree with the clear coat, nagmukhang authentic yung tallgeese after spraying it, the matte finish left a better impression sa shades

thanks for the link!

[dj898]

here's the subtle max style painting I attempted with MG GM 1.5
upper torso was also done Max style - clear red on the pre-shaded painting though after this photo I changed to the flat red since I wasn't happy with the outcome~

No top coat yet as it's just the basic coat before decal and etc.

[Lotur]

great subtle preshade!
edges were defined while retaining overall neatness, thanks for sharing
are these results possible with a weathering kit?

[dj898]

Don't think you can do that with the weathering kit.

I had to go over and redo the spraying to achieve that.
Initially the shadow was too strong and after the 2nd attempt it was pretty much covered all.
So I re-applied the edge shadow and then go over with two different shades of white for the highlighting followed with misting to tie down whole lot.

[Lotur]

way to go! i guess watanabe tactics are still way too advanced for me
il take my chances with the weathering kit for the meantime, practice muna ;D
thanks ulit!

[no3Ljm]

lotur said:

mannyd said:

hi guys, yeah pastel chalk can be more subtle and even looking than pre shading sometimes, kase you have control dun sa powder na lalagay mo. you apply it like paint, just dip the fine pointed brush sa powder, then hand brush gently on the edges and panel lines.

and yeah it sticks best to matte finish.

minsan you think madame na nalagay mo, then after putting top / clear coat mag iiba sya bigla, magiging more subtle. parang magic

if you like the really weathered look, like the gundams in MS08th team, you can use light green, reddish brown, and sandy yellow pastel chalks. parang me mud and dirt un look.

if you like naman to weather space type gundams, pag white basepaint, you can use light blue or light grey colors. sa darker basepaints, use black or dark grey.

and like no3ljm said, use un square pastel chalks, un parang chalk talaga. and not those round oil pastels

tnx

pre whats the difference between this pastel chalk and the typical weathering kit from tamiya?

does it work well for non painted kits followed up by clear coat?
and what clear coat is best recommended (gloss/flat)?

ive only tried this once with my non painted tallgeese, and imo napakapal ata lagay ko (it did not resemble the post or pre shading effects, instead waxed/powdery, uneven shades on edges ang result using the tamiya weather kit... maybe it had a lot to do with the non painted surface and lack of clear coat?)

TIA

actually, you can achieve the same results using the Tamiya's Weather kit and regular non-oil based pastel chalk. although the Tamiya brand is specifically for hobby kits. but if you're on a tight budget, a regular ones will do. just be sure it's not oil-based.

grind first the pastel chalk so it will be a powder-like substance and use it with brush. and brush it on the edges. in order for the pastel chalk to stick, the surface should be flat first. so i suggest, you spraypaint first your kit with flat topcoat. apply the weathering kit or pastel chalks, and if you're happy with the outcome, spray it again with flat topcoat. and yes, pastel chalks are great for weathering your kit.

hope that helps.

[dj898]

just make sure to get the chalk based pastel, not oil based pastel...

[Lotur]

thanks guys!
got myself weathering kits from lil's
will try to shade soon